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bhlevca
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TurboPrint capabilities

Post by bhlevca » Thu Jan 01, 2015 9:01 pm

Hi,

I evaluated TurboPrint and I am generally happy with it but I need more information to decide if it can do what I need and I may buy based on that.

1) I could not find a way to print without color management . This is very important to have if I want to create ICC profiles for my printer.

See here the explanation http://www.oyranos.org/2012/02/linux-printing/

I just did mine and I did everything on in Linux, with Argylll CMS and ColorMunki Design, except printing the Target prints, which I had to do on MAC with Adobe Color Printer Utility . See explanation here http://www.luminous-landscape.com/revie ... tion.shtml.
I wish that something like this would be possible in Linux, but I could not see a way to do it with TurboPrint.
I expressed my thoughts on a Printfab thread : http://www.turboprint.info/support/view ... =26&t=1536

Is this what TP proof mode is? My understanding is that it is not what I am looking for.

At the end I printed with TP on linux using the newly created ICC profile and the results are very good. However, when printing a A3+ the printout came smaller with a huge margin although I chose borderless printing. Is the demo limiting size or there is something wrong

2) I am planning to buy TP to use my Canon pro 9000 mk 2 on Linux, since my demo version will expire in a few days, but I need to know if the Pro version will be enough. I will not print larger than A3+ and I will most likely print in RGB but I need to know if I can use ICC profiles that I create and change color space. Will the TP Pro be enough?
I could do all my printing in MacOS, but I would rather pay some money and do it in Linux, especially to support Linux development but I need to know TP's limitations.

3) What happens in case I want to upgrade my system? Computers get obsolete quite fast or may crash. Do I need to buy another licence even though I will use it on a single computer?

I think that I should be able to reuse the same license but how do you ensure that I am not actually installing it on multiple computers?

Thanks
Bogdan

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Re: TurboPrint capabilities

Post by zedonet » Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:32 pm

Hello,

1) It is possible to print without color management - we know that this is essential to create ICC profiles. I include a tutorial on how to create ICC profiles with your own spectrophotometer & profiling software (e.g. Argyll).

What we wanted to express in the PrintFab thread that you quoted is:
PrintFab doesn't print identical to the Epson driver in "no color management" mode, so you will not get good color quality if you are using ICC profiles that were created for the Epson Windows driver - you must print the profile color chart with TurboPrint.

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Creating your own ICC profiles for TurboPrint

To create an ICC profile e.g. with EyeOne, ColorMunki or Spyder, you first have to create a new profile entry in TurboPrint Control, button "Profiles". You will have to select the type of media (e.g. coated inkjet paper or glossy photo paper), the print quality and the maximum ink amount (e.g. 250%).

The new profile will be visible as an additional media type in the print dialog. Use this media entry to print the profile chart - color management will be automatically turned off (until you execute "import profile data").

Printing the profile color chart

The next step is to print a profile color chart that is supplied with your profiling software (there is either a TIFF file or an option to export a profile chart). You can use GIMP with the TurboPrint print plugin to print the color chart, just make sure to set

"Media Type" = <the media entry that you just added> - this will make sure that color management is disabled

Then measure the profile chart and import the resulting ICC profile in TurboPrint Control -> dialog "Profiles". After importing the profile, when you print with "Media Type" set to your new profile, color management is enabled and the new ICC profile will be used.
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2) You can use TurboPrint Pro for this purpose. TurboPrint Pro is limited to "RGB" ICC printer profiles. However, this is not a real limitation as ColorMunki can only create RGB profiles. TurboPrint Studio can do CMYK printing (also referred to as "CMYK proof mode") and can import aditional ICC document color spaces.


3) The TurboPrint license is not locked to a PC or Linux distribution, it is no problem to reinstall on a new PC.

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Re: TurboPrint capabilities

Post by bhlevca » Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:20 pm

Thank you very much for your prompt and detailed answer.
It appears that I only need the Pro version as long as I can use my own ICC profiles with it.

I need the answer to one question that you have missed.

"At the end I printed with TP on linux using the newly created ICC profile and the results are very good. However, when printing a A3+ the printout came smaller with a huge white margin around the image although I chose borderless printing. Is the demo limiting size or there is something wrong"

Is the demo limited in size ?

I print mostly A3+ 19x13 inch and I want to be able to print borderless in that size. The result I got was a 13x10, is this the limit for the demo version or I had some setup problems? I made sure that:
  • 1)the driver was Cannon Pro 9000 MK2 TP-USB,
    2) Selected page size:A3+ Borderless but in the advanced section
    3) I don't remember if I selected A3+ Borderless or just A3+ for Media Size or Page region.
Could that have created that huge border even though I set margings to 0. I could try again but paper and ink are expensive and if the demo version is limiting I got my answer.

If not I will try again after I buy the license if you confirm that A3+ borderless printing is possible with the Pro version.

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Re: TurboPrint capabilities

Post by zedonet » Mon Jan 05, 2015 6:09 pm

The border is not caused by a size limitation in your version of TurboPrint. I assume that the problem is caused by a setting in the application's print dialog or that it is specific to the application you are printing from - which application software did you use to print?

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Re: TurboPrint capabilities

Post by bhlevca » Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:45 am

I used showfoto that comes bundled with digikam. As I said I am not sure about setting the Media Size and Page region to A3+ Borderless. It may have been just A3+, but I am puzzled by the size of the border which I am certain that I set margins to zero. I do not think that matters too muck which application I use as long as it is a KDE application. I noticed that all KDE application invoke the same print dialog box.

I should probably try again, but I need probably to buy a license first as my demo version expired today.

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Re: TurboPrint capabilities

Post by bhlevca » Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:25 pm

Hello,

I know that this thread is old but I worked on MAC OX and I did not buy Turboprint. Now I am ready to move my photo processing completely on Linux and I'd like to buy a license.
You mentioned below that ColorMunki does not handle CMYK profiles,
zedonet wrote: 2) You can use TurboPrint Pro for this purpose. TurboPrint Pro is limited to "RGB" ICC printer profiles. However, this is not a real limitation as ColorMunki can only create RGB profiles. TurboPrint Studio can do CMYK printing (also referred to as "CMYK proof mode") and can import aditional ICC document color spaces.
but, I have Design and as you can read at the link posted below it actually does:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/5 ... ement.html

I have good/decent photo tools, but I am still a hobbist and not a pro, and I 'd like an honest advice whether I should/need to buy the Studio version or the Pro will be enough. I am calibrating both the display and the printer and deal with several ICCs but I don't print larger than A3+. Furthermore, my understanding is that consumer printers (including my Canon pixma 9000 MK II) although they print in CMYK they are in fact RGB devices. I looked at ICC profiles for my printer given my paper manufactured and they are all in the RGB color space.

As I am not a specialist in this field I would appreciate an honest advice whether in my case a Turboprint Studio version would bring me any benefits over a Pro version.

Thanks
Bogdan

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Re: TurboPrint capabilities

Post by zedonet » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:51 am

Hello,

I have answered this in your other thread

http://www.turboprint.info/support/view ... f=5&t=2650

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