Super saturated colors

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lajoiephoto
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Super saturated colors

Post by lajoiephoto » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:16 am

I’m exhausted and going broke trying to get PrintFab prints to match my Eizo screen images. I’ve tried creating profiles using my SpyderPrint software. I running a Pro-10 using OS 10.14 Mojave. I shoot and edit in Adobe RGB (1998). I’ve followed the directions for using no correction, printing out charts,scanning, etc. All my prints out of PrintFab come out super saturated whether I’m printing out of Photoshop, Lightroom, or Preview using the profiles I’ve created. I know they’re not as good as the profiles from Zedonet, but I was hoping that they’d be closer than they are. What corrections relative to saturation would be the best to try?

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Re: Super saturated colors

Post by zedonet » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:59 pm

Hello,

I include a short description of the profiling workflow - please check if you followed these steps. A common error is to enable the color profile in the application (Lightroom / Photoshop) and in PrintFab - see point 1) and 2) of the description below for details.

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Creating ICC profiles for PrintFab/Mac

To create an ICC profile e.g. with EyeOne, ColorMunki or Spyder, you must create a new profile entry in PrintFab Toolbox -> "Open toolbox for selected printer" -> "Manage color profiles" -> "Printer Profiles".
You will have to select the type of media (e.g. coated inkjet paper or glossy photo paper), the print quality and the maximum ink amount (250% is the default).

The new profile will be visible as an additional paper type in the print dialog. Use this paper entry to print the profile chart - color management will be automatically turned off (until you execute "import profile data").

Printing the profile color chart

The next step is to print a profile color chart with the Spyder software.

PrintFab driver settings:

tab "Main": "Media type"=<the media entry that you just added>
tab "Color": "Intent"="No correction", "Mode"="RGB" or "CMYK" depending on the ICC profile type

The resulting ICC profile can be used either in PrintFab (recommended) or in Photoshop:

1) color management in PrintFab

- import the ICC profile in the "Profiles" dialog of PrintFab Toolbox

- in the Photoshop print dialog, select "Photoshop Manages Colors". As "Printer Profile" choose the document profile (in earlier versions of Photoshop, you can choose "No color management" instead).

- in the PrintFab driver settings, also choose the document profile

2) color management in PhotoShop

- add the ICC profile to the OS X color profiles folder

- in the Photoshop print dialog, select "PhotoShop manages colors" and "Printer profile"=<the icc profile you created>

- in the PrintFab driver settings, use the same settings as when printing
the ICC profile chart:
tab "Main": "Media type"=<the media entry you used to print the ICC profile chart>
tab "Color": "Intent"="No correction", "Mode"="RGB" or "CMYK" depending on the ICC profile type

Some PrintFab settings like the "ink save mode" can be chosen only when color management is done in PrintFab.

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Re: Super saturated colors

Post by lajoiephoto » Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:13 pm

So, the settings in Photoshop will be the same whether I’m letting Photoshop or PrintFab manage. That is, the .icc profile I created will be set in both PS and PrintFab. If I set the intent in PrintFab to “no correction”, PS is managing. If I set intent to anything else in PrintFab, PrintFab is managing? Must the intents (relative, perceptual) match if PrintFab is managing?

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Re: Super saturated colors

Post by zedonet » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:53 am

If you want PrintFab to manage colors, you must disable color management in Photoshop. Adobe has removed the option "No Color Management", but you can do the same by selecting

- Color Handling = "Photoshop manages colors"
- Printer Profile = <Document Profile> (e.g. sRGB)

Photoshop will complain ("No Color Management not supported") but you can print anyway.
"Rendering intent" and "black point compensation" are irrelevant in this case, because there is no color management.

Your description of color management in Photoshop is correct.

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Re: Super saturated colors

Post by lajoiephoto » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:20 pm

Thanks so much. This forum is a great selling point for Zedonet. Had you shared that screen shot in your instructions, I wouldn’t have wasted your time nor tested your patience. I’m grateful.

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Re: Super saturated colors

Post by zedonet » Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:52 am

The manual contained an older screenshot + description for Photoshop, an updated version of the manual is now on our website and also in the current download package.

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